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How important is ROI?

  1. NickB Says:
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    Since I started playing sportsbook, I never really paid a particular attention to this and PROFIT has always been THE GOAL for me. How do you improve your ROI ? I think I need to start improving on this matter. I would appreciate any help.


    #1 - January 30, 2012 at 5:43 PM




  2. ROI is return on investment.

    There is nothing more important then your return on investment. 

    Unless you don't value money.

    If you win on a -200 line, your return on investment will be 50%.

    You bet 2 to win 1. You profit 50% of what you wagered.

    If you win on a +100 line, your ROI returned is 100%.

    You risked 1 to win 1, so 100% is the ROI.

    ROI is the percentage of profit returned per wager you bet on. 

    If you bet $100 a game and have an ROI of 10%, you profit $10 for every $100 you have bet.

    So an ROI of 10% on one hundred $100 wagers using +100 lines ($10,000 wagered), you returned $1000.

    So your total bankroll would be at $11,000.


    #2 - January 30, 2012 at 5:54 PM




  3. Remember, I was using +100 as an example.

    #3 - January 30, 2012 at 5:55 PM




  4. Say your starting bankroll was $10,000 to begin with.

    Then, you wager 100 times on +100 lines risking $100 each bet.

    If your ROI was 10%, you would have $1000 profit. So your bankroll would be $11,000.

    There, better.


    #4 - January 30, 2012 at 5:57 PM


  5. NickB Says:


    I can see how ROI can be valued but I can also see how smaller ROI can benefit you more. Say I've made $500 from a total of 1,000 worth of wagers. What I sometimes do is, I would still play half of my profit ($250) on games with lesser risk. Like, instead of playing GB Packers -7.5, I would just probably bet moneyline or buy some points. In this case if I win this wager, I would have a little more profit but less ROI. If I lose I can still hold on to my $250 left in my profit.

    #5 - January 30, 2012 at 7:23 PM




  6. The bottom line is, ROI is the formula to calculate on average how much profit you bring in.

    In no situation is any other statistic more important.


    #6 - January 30, 2012 at 7:26 PM




  7. Win % and average odds is universally looked at

    #7 - January 30, 2012 at 7:27 PM




  8. The average bettor will understand if you say you are 58% ats rather than giving him your roi

    #8 - January 30, 2012 at 7:29 PM




  9. Im going off topic. never mind.

    #9 - January 30, 2012 at 7:36 PM




  10. The average bettor is gambling with that mentality.


    Who cares about win percentage and odds?

    Most important is always ROI, there is nothing even close.

    I don't understand how this is so difficult to understand.


    Return on investment aka how much money you make aka profit aka bigger bankroll aka the ultimate goal.


    Anyone that thinks there is a more important stat then return on investment, is a square.

    Use your brain. Whats better? Making money, or fancy numbers?


    Use you brain might not be the best thing to say. I have family members that would give an even blanker stare after being told to use their brain.




    #10 - January 30, 2012 at 7:37 PM


  11. Patrick
    Patrick Says:


    I would argue that Z Score is more important than ROI.

    #11 - January 30, 2012 at 7:39 PM




  12. And before this is taken out of context, know that if you were in front of me these words are coming out in a calm tone. 

    #12 - January 30, 2012 at 7:39 PM




  13. Would Z score not be 2nd?

    This is of course me assuming a long term record is in front of us and we are using the numbers we see.

    Z score doesn't pay the bills, that's how I see it.


    #13 - January 30, 2012 at 7:41 PM




  14. Its essentially the same thing. If i say i bet 1u pp and im 57% ats, you can pretty much calculate my roi

    #14 - January 30, 2012 at 7:43 PM




  15. Not exactly SBS. Spreads have alternate odds. Some are -107, others -110 etc.

    Even if every line was -110, sure this would be simple to judge.

    Since ROI is an exact amount, it is #1.

    The money that comes back to you must be the most important factor.


    #15 - January 30, 2012 at 7:45 PM




  16. I agree it is. Im just talking about what it means to the average person.

    #16 - January 30, 2012 at 7:48 PM




  17. To the average person, win percentage is the eye catcher.


    #17 - January 30, 2012 at 7:50 PM




  18. Thats why you see headlines like 'Crazy joe sports hitting an incredible 62% for march'

    #18 - January 30, 2012 at 7:58 PM




  19. They would use ROI to market themselves, if they had one. 


    #19 - January 30, 2012 at 8:02 PM


  20. RenoChazz Says:


    z score is not something I'm familiar with. How is it calculated?

    #20 - January 30, 2012 at 9:25 PM


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